The head of research at the fossil fuels campaign group Lock the Gate Alliance, Georgina Woods, said global heating caused by burning fossil fuels was “already affecting Australian businesses, community wellbeing, household bills and national security” and damaging “our extraordinary natural heritage”.

Gavan McFadzean, from the Australian Conservation Foundation, said the country’s thermal coal exports were an “appalling contribution” to the climate crisis and a “major handbrake” on global efforts to cut emissions. He said the major parties were running on a “unity ticket” of trying to get the Australian public thinking “there’s nothing to see here”.

As Thoreau pointed out long ago, what use a home with no livable planet. :(

Both major parties have argued that there remained a global market for fossil fuels and if Australia reduced its sales they would just be replaced by coal and gas from other countries in a way that would lead to no overall gain but would hurt parts of the local economy.

This is like arguing if we don’t sell weapons to Russia, North Korea will and then being ok with that. I get it’s the “drug dealer problem” but neither the LNP or the ALP would suggest dealers are ok ?

Vote Green

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    I don’t see the greens having any ability to fix this. No matter how many you vote for there will always be enough Liberal Party and some number of Labor party to push through coal expansion.

    Might as well take the lesser evil and make Labour the majority party by as big a margin as possible.

    Being pro-coal is not an accusation to Liberals, it’s their actual platform. If you cannot convince their voters to jump ship then your campaigning on this issue is pretty inconsequential.

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      Or, hear me out, you could have a minority government with multiple parties and independents, many of whom want to see coal phased out.

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        What you’re asking for is not possible. There are several districts held barely by Labor which if flipped Liberal will make Dutton the PM.

        If you vote green in one of those districts then you’re endorsing the Liberal Party of Australia to Drill Drill Drill, baby.

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          If you vote green in one of those districts then you’re endorsing the Liberal Party of Australia to Drill Drill Drill, baby.

          That’s not how preferential voting works.

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              Lets assume 51% vote 1 for Liberal … then the Liberal wins regardless …

              Yes? That is always the case.

              I’m just wondering why you say: “if you vote green in one of those districts then you’re endorsing the Liberal Party of Australia to Drill Drill Drill, baby”. Unlike the Liberals and Labor, the Greens are against all new coal and gas.

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          Please tell me you understand that you can direct your own preferences?

          This is how you should vote:

          1. Put any parties you really like the policies of first
          2. Put your least worst major party next (or the lest worst of the two most popular candidates, if you’re not in a Lib/Lab contest)
          3. Put the worse major party next
          4. Put all the garbage parties after that.

          First preferences get reported, so they are a symbolic message to the politicians. But they might also win in some cases, so bonus. If your early preferences get knocked off early, then your preference will flow to who ever you put higher among the last 2 to be knocked off.

          Edit: to be clear, there is no way in any ballot, that putting greens first makes it more likely that the liberals will win, UNLESS YOU MANUALLY VOTE THAT WAY.

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